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morality without religion

It’s funny that when you discuss religion, mostly with those that pursue the belief with vigour; I always find the question of morality is thrown into the face of a ‘non believer’. The ‘non believer’ status often being attached to anyone outside of that particular religion and more rightfully (perhaps) to the innocent atheists, who is following their own belief set.

So when I saw this video featured on the Guardian but as part of a series (at the time of writing, yet to be fully published) I thought that I would spread the word. The arguments within are immensely succinct and highlight the certainty that God(s) is/are not needed for morals to exists, in fact religion is more likely in my opinion to warp a persons sense of morality.

More to this here to Epley article.

While we are on the subject of teachings and professional expert opinions (which surely religious leaders are seen as such) it may also interest you that studies (as in scientific, which will mystify the hardcore religious already – how is the internet btw?) show that when listening to a experts voices, we are so addicted to expert opinion, substituting our intellect to the illusion of certainty experts provide, the independent decision making part of the brain switches off. Despite the very real fact that experts are often and I do mean often are wrong. See video.

  • Missy

    As promised I thought about this a bit. It’s quite an intricate topic
    as philosophers as Kant more or less spent their lifetime on finding a solution
    to the issue if moral exists without religion so I don’t think I can come up with
    anything more concrete but just what I think.

    Morals are, at least to me, not so easy to separate from religion as
    humans tend to need their religion as a guidance as to what is right or wrong
    as they seem to be afraid to make up their own mind. So being roman-catholic
    myself, I needed to give confessions a couple of times when I was younger, which can be considered something moral I’d say –
    cause I more or less truly regretted my “sins”.

    I also still pay church taxes every month because I still not managed to
    sing out of church, so over the years I gave some Ks to the church, which was hopefully used
    for good purposes. But I did not do this because I really wanted to or because I have such
    a good heart, no, I just did it because it’s my religion that I was born into – so can my “good” actions
    then be really
    also considered morally correct if I just did because I had to..?

    Stepping out of church I will, on the surface, be a less moral person. I will do less good things, however I will be probably a more true
    person.

    And is being “more true” not also being “more moral”?

    Can moral exist without god, surely yes?! Can moral exist without
    religion?

    It can, but not for everyone I guess, but as I said, this topic is playing with fire.